Blogs2, Writing on a Continuum, Computers & Writing 2009

by Dr Davis on June 20, 2009

Elizabeth Davis, She is presenting her blog. Very interesting.

Always in Progress

Put this in the blog. Written posts. Commented on my posts.

Doing it bloggy style

What am I trying to teach? What am I blogging?

questions on the post

She scratched out how blogging is helpful for academic work.
Note: I wonder if I can get into the T&P stuff for our work?

McSweeney’s

Week 7:
Blogging

No postprint writing class would be complete without a comprehensive overview of blog writing. Students will work to make their blogging more vivid using the fundamentals of the craft, such as imagery, foreshadowing, symbolism, and viral paparazzi photos of celebrity nip slips. Students will practice posting viral YouTube videos with eye-catching headlines like “Check this out,” “BOSMKL,” and “Doesn’t this CRAZY cat look like she’s giving that ferret a high-five?” Students will learn time-saving tricks, like how to construct an 800-word blog entry in 30 seconds using a simple news article and copy-and-paste. And, as an exercise in the first-person narrative form, students will blog intimate details about their lives, their studies, and their sexual histories (with pictures), with the intent of being linked to by gossip sites and/or discovered by future employers.

There’s no peer review, no authority.

We think of them as places to gossip. There’s no academic value in blogging?

Comments to herself. If you are using blogs, what is the usefulness of this?

“knowledge construction is discursive, relational and conversational in nature. Therefore, as students appropriate and transform knowledge, they must have authentic opportunities for publication of knowledge” (Ferdig and Trammel)

I also believed, as all good process compositionists do, that writing improves with practice. So why not give them LOTS of practice with these kinds of low-stakes assignments?

They are taking your class and they may love it. Are we turning them off to blogging when we bring it into the classroom and make it a responsibility?

Forced blogging
Forced Blogging equals Zero Comments

I locked the blog at first. I wasn’t sure how public it would be. It became a private space.

I hoped for this virtual bizarre, buzzing with free exchange…

It didn’t become that.

The writing was low stakes. Less polished.

Reading responses, journals, are at this point generic. They are a solidified genre… This is not freeing them from institutional structures.

“good” blogging

Read all these articles on how to blog. I can’t find her blogging guidelines. I am sure they are somewhere.

Blog as conversational space. Work on point that blog is “genre.”
Can you privilege product over process? Posts became more standardized. Usually only commented on each other’s posts when required.
Note: I think offering extra credit for this is good.

Seriously, though, genres are part of the mechanism for stabilizing and perpetuating institutional power. Chris Thaiss and Terry Meyers Zawacki argue (following Miller) that learning genre actually means not just learning about the means to an end, but what the end even is (16-17).

Media constantly evolve, but I’d like to see blogs stick around because I actually do think they have potential and value for seriously scholarly work, but only if we start to think more about that work as process and practice rather than product.

from Sustainable Practice

Think of blog as a medium. It’s a legitimate option for writing and conducting research.

Cannot find the post on theory… Certeau, Russell. Comments. No search function on the blog? Ah, pages. But no search function. Problem there.

Noah Waltrip-Fruin’s blog-based peer review.

Instead of writing good blogs, let’s write naughty blogs. (There’s a post title.)

Latest Atlantic, James Cascio, “Get Smart/er” (again, having to page through to find this)

Very interesting. Will come back to the blog later.

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Blogs2, Comp for CS, at Computers & Writing 2009

by Dr Davis on June 20, 2009

Composition for the Unlikely: Nicole Anderson, Winona State U

CS dept pop
lots of you have students who are skilled and interested in writing.
My students are better at these technologies than I am. One of the things they are not motivated to do on their own is writing.

Writing flag courses, reinforce writing with discipline-specific texts, tools, and strategies.

CS has some unique issues:
CS students struggle with clear and concise written and verbal comm
CS has severally underrepresented populations, including women, minorities, and students with disabilities

Goals:
facilitate growth in writing skills
increased interest in written comm
engage all populations in this effort
Provide the students with an additional aud
allow the world a window into our course
Have the students enjoy the processes so that they will take more from it.

Underrepresented pops are often behind because male students are gaming guys and have been on computers all the time. The underrepresented are unsure of their place, since they don’t have the same experiences.

In a branch campus, so immigrants, older women, pt and tt.

Teaching writing on a blog?
No. The course integrates the creation of tech doc. (“courses integrates”)

Guidelines;
blog has many authors, all are peers
possible contributions include:
meta writing – discussion of tech doc in progress
summary of learning/notes and reflections from course lectures
questions– I wasn’t the only one answering the questions. The students often were responding and giving unique perspectives.
other related materials and resources

Number of message posts per student:
All students 43.7
Women 77.0 (This was not the effect within the f2f classroom.)
students with disabilities 44.8
minorities 41.3

Shyest student I have ever had… uncomfortable to introduce self… She was at about 44 posts.

Locations of blog visitors:
North America 1517
South America 62
Europe 459
Australia 54
Asia 530
Africa 48

This was motivating. They were writing something that people actually cared about.

Audiences
Statistically more readers who were not part of class.
Member of the Google team responded
Database management person responded

Feedback
great to encourage indep research and prblem solving
allows us to depend on peers
good way to get different opinions and/or ideas
strong collaborative community
No one commented on writing. Usually I hear complaints on writing. They were doing beyond what I asked and they didn’t complain.

Other hand
Miscommunication due to cultural differences and language skills
Attempting to replaces f2f comm
Harsher language used in online communication
Note: This is something that I really need to remember to discuss. This is ubiquitous on the net.

Future
Expanding the blog into online collaborative community
using requirements analysis process to identify correct match for students’ needs
Other tech improvements, ex built in mechanisms for id’d needs such as seeking and corralling posts (Schreyer and Mangini)
Possibly hard to navigate.
Creating a layer on top of blogger by communicating with it programmatically.

Integration of writing tools for improving writing skills into the tech
What would be most beneficial?
simple: spell check
complex: peer review system

Feedback from you guys on this aspect. What would be useful?

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Town Hall: Computers & Writing 2009

by Dr Davis on June 20, 2009

Danielle Nicole DeVoss (She won prizes last night for being great.)
Cathy Gabor (She was the chair for my session.)
Sibylie Gruber
John Stenzel
Mike Palmquist (He’s someone big of whom I have heard.)
Praba Pilar

Danielle
For our work to find eyes and ears beyond this conference… we need publishing. Chapter authors made the book great. First book for CCDP.

Are we now layout professionals? Coders?

Publishing with an online press increase the load for publishing. Good way, but more things to do. How we need to situate the work we are doing in publishing online.

When we are thinking about sustainability we have to look at shifting technological cultures.

Cathy
As a new voice, CCDP is coming out.
Access to digital composing can provide traditionally marginalized groups to encode their own motherhood.
Creative and engaging programs risk losing their sustainability with new leadership.

As someone who is about to step into running a writing program, how can I, from a tech handicap, encourage and sustain…?

Sibylie
Is sustainability possible?

technology gets in the way. So many new things so quickly that we think we figure out that sometimes we think we just throw up our hands.

Do I really need the newest gadgets, programs, computers? But of course. Not really. Depends on how we see our priorities.

What are some of the sustainable elements?
Good pedagogical reasons for using tech.
Awareness of audience
Awareness of population, community

For whom are we sustainable?
school, work, politics, community?

Sustainability and SES
LA Times June 11, 2009
1/2 of California’s low SES homes have no access
Jobs are online. Requirements for announcements are online.

Barack Obama used computers.

Our role in computing for sustainability
reasons for computing
purposeful work
ethical uses of tech tools
start early, continue late

John
Writing part…
Since I got into this field, looking at the printing press to phonograph to computers, with this tech bullet we were going to suddenly slay the dragon of ignorance.
Hypo: “tool x makes better writers” has been extended fallaciously to think that getting our students this tech they will be better writers. But it makes them more productive bad writers.

Lots of tools don’t lend themselves easily to making students critically aware of how they should create their context.

Sustainability in terms of our own careers. Constantly aiming for behind the curve. Many of our students are not as far ahead as we think they are. Overestimate the student sophistication. Not only access but will it scale? How do we create a classroom space that is simpler than the info space of our students?

Anecdote: writing in food science and tech… Bright student, constantly texting. Took the time to take a break and went up to her. Did this quietly, on the side. Said, I know you’re used to texting, but disruptive to me. Class needs full attention. 4 or 5 wks later she came back to me and said thank you for talking to me quietly.

Is twitter and fb sustainable technology? What is appropriate in our classrooms? Where do we want to put our emphasis? Tragedy of late adolescence in the technology.

We need to make choices about what we want to do well. Do we want to divide our attention or do we want to make a focus?

Michael
Made me think about sustainability.
CSU project… website since 92, 93
highly collaborative project

WAC Clearinghouse

Personal … career emphasis. Lot of thought into sustainability.

How do we sustain our initiatives? How do we transition leadership?
WAC movement, really put energy in and then they’re gone. These programs go away. That’s a real issue. Have to think about transitions.

Activity Theory; Chuck Bazerman and ? old Soviet psych theory developed
in 1980s popularized again

notion of contradiction
discourse community assumes monolithic
activity theory says not monolithic, some contradictions

late 1990s, 65K pages, largest site
We had reinvented the wheel. Put together online handouts. Nothing innovative. Depressing.
Do something different.
Why don’t we shift our focus from developing help for classroom to instead helping our writers?

With the web, we could do more than CSU. As it turns out, you couldn’t get credit for working on a website on your annual activity report. T&P issue.

Academic writing… book instead of journal… Then resurrected WAC Clearinghouse.

contradictions useful when look where we’re going

So many good projects, Kairos, CCDP

Think broadly and collaboratively. We are identical to a print press until we publish. Everything else is same.

Praba
Different challenge. Compost bins.
Compost our computers and our cell phones.
One single computer can contain 100s of things.
Green Peace…
Silicon Valley Toxic Coalition
10% of computers are being recycled
toxic material shipped overseas
These recycling operations are extremely polluting.
What are we as educators to do?
She gave an org, but wasn’t the letters I understood.

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